Please note: WE know are led to believe the above results presented on this page are a fruad the email at bottom of page seems to give the reason why.


This article is a translation from german to english (sorry my grammatical errors). Found in original version http://buerger.metropolis.de/drax22/alt.htm

this project said regarding an oscillator of square wave 
I made a circuit with a chip 555, perhaps it can help you.

Email the translator of this page Paulo Mateiro

 

High frequency - electrolysis of water

Based on the realizations of Dingel, Tanimulli and Meyer (know more about they...)

 
A control electronics
B hydrogen/oxygen producer
C battery 
 
 
 
 

 

Control electronics and hydrogen/oxygen (H/O) generator
Hydrogen oxygen generator in the detail

(H/O generator)

Current supply for electrolysis in the detail

8 x 1,2 V of accumulators (= 9,6 V)
In the middle of: An/Aus switch with current limiter (variable)
 

Battery luggage and introduction carburetor in the detail
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Hydrogen/oxygen producer from above  
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Fill hydrogen/oxygen of the producer

Experimental setup (old) to the high frequency electrolysis

From left to the right:
Transformer
Circuit analyzer
Frequency generator
Electrolysis tub
In the detail
 

 

Electrode in the detail (in the rasenmaeher one uses)

High frequency - electrolysis of water

Experiment 1
Experimental setup (1) to the high frequency electrolysis

Time: x+0
Voltage:0 V
Amp:0 mA
Frequency: 0 cycles per second (Hz) 

Experimental setup:
Anode: Copper with silver coat (galvanic),
Length: 35mm (1.37 inch)  / Diameter:10mm (0.39 inch)  / Meanders:5 / Wire Diameter:1mm (0.03 inch).

Cathode: Copper with silver coat (galvanic),
Length: 35mm (1.37 inch)  / Diameter:10mm (0.39 inch)  / Meanders:5 / Wire Diameter:1mm (0.03 inch)

Cylinder: Standard art off cylinder approx. 90   x 200 mm.
System is unbefuellt.  

1. Test launch  

Time: x+0.3 minutes
Voltage:4.8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 10 cycles per second (Hz)

System is filled.
Filling: 1,1 litres water and 0,1 litres of sulfuric acid (10%) for the increase of the conductivity.
First H/O splitting off becomes visible.

2. Attempt runs  

Time: x+1 minutes
Voltage:4.8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 230 cycles per second (Hz)
 

Increased H/O splitting off.

3. Attempt runs  

Time: x+3 minutes
Voltage:4,8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 600 cycles per second (Hz)

H/O splitting off increases with frequency change. Frequency in follow further increased.

4. Attempt runs  

Time: x+4 minutes
Voltage:4,8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 700 cycles per second (Hz)

Frequency is continued to increase   to 700Hz. H/O production increases superproportionally.

5. Attempt runs  

Time: x+6 minutes
Voltage:4,8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 923 cycles per second (Hz)

H/O production achieves maximum with 923Hz.  

6. Attempt runs  

Time: x+7 minutes
Voltage:4,8 V
Amp:300 mA
Frequency: 1100 cycles per second (Hz)

H/O production becomes smaller with rising frequency. Frequency is gone back gradually on 923Hz.

7. Attempt end  

Time: x+9 minutes
Voltage:0 V
Amp:0 mA
Frequency: 0 cycles per second (Hz)

  End of the experiment. The frequency was gone back gradually again on 923Hz and held for 32 seconds 923Hz.


 
Summary
x+0 minutes

Water(Mix) volume   of 1,2 litres

 

x+6 minutes

Current supply was stored at short notice.
Variation in volume about 1/5.

X+9 minutes
End of the experiment.
Became by 1.2 litres water
0,5 litres during the experiment split up into hydrogen and oxygen.

 
By the experimental setup 0,5 litres became water within 9 minutes with changing frequency
split up into hydrogen and oxygen.
With constant frequency of 923Hz, a voltage of 4.8 V and a current from 300mA a fragmentation becomes
from greater 1 litre/minute achieves.
This corresponds to regular grade fuel in for instance a calorific value of 0.7 litres.
The energy source used in this experiment consisted of 4 accumulators with in each case 1.2 V and 5000mA capacity. (commercial rechargeable a-cells)

From this follows:

Constant current from 4 x 1,2 V of A cells: 4,8 V with 5000mAH
Length of time to exhaustion of the batteries: approx.. 6-8 hours (minimum ~360 minutes)
Energy quantity per minute: Calorific value according to approximately 0,7 litres regular grade fuel

360 minutes of x of 0,7 litres = 252 litres calorific value

1 hour = 42 litres calorific value

Differently expressed:

With 4 batteries (as for instance in the flashlight) it is possible to produce per hour hydrogen and oxygen in a quantity which corresponds to regular grade fuel in approximately 42 litres. Until the batteries are exhausted, they produced for calorific value, which corresponds at least 252 litres to regular grade fuel.
Converted a vehicle, which uses into approximately 10 litres on 100 km (62 miles), with 4 commercial batteries could drive about 2500 (1553 miles) kilometers far.


This contains links and some diagrams to help you make your circuit.

Need a software that simulate a circuit before you construct it ? See at http://www.beigebag.com/ad2000.htm

 

LM555 Astable Oscillator Circuit Diagram


I had some emails assuming that the web owner (me) has performed the above experiment,I have not done so and have merely reproduced the report at this site.

I have had some reports of others conducting this experiment and not getting the results as claimed.

one of these is reproduced as below.

Geoff


I reference to the high frequency electrolysis link on the energy21 terrashare site. I'm a member of an inventor's coop in Northern California and am very interested in researching more efficient means of electrolysis for producing hydrogen on demand for powering vehicles. I have accessed Puharich's patents and white paper and the Xogen patent and other information which you might also find interesting.

I thought of starting with something simple like trying to obtain similar results to your experiment. In trying to replicate or at least approximate the results found in your page on high frequency electrolysis we had very different results.

We utilized an existing power circuit designed by a friend, an electronic engineer. We started with a solution of 10% battery acid, commercially available in the US, It is not clear to us what concentration of sulfuric acid this is, but we added 30ml of this to 270ml of tap water in a plastic beaker. We then used two 24k gold plated copper electrode coils attatched to our power source.

The power source was CURRENT LIMITED to 250mA, the voltage supplied to the circuit was 12V, but as measured at the cell it varied from 1 to 2 volts as the impedance of the cell changed. The cell impedance changed when we varied the frequency of the power source from .6Hz to over 1300HZ. In doing so, we found no change whatsoever in the amount of gas produced as we varied frequency. The only difference we found was that the bubble size changed from large (approx .5cm) to very small.

Because we found that the voltage across the cell varied with frequency we are wondering if perhaps your circuit was voltage requlated with the current varying freely in response to the impedance load of the cell as the frequency varied? If so, this could explain the dramatic difference in gas produced due to current variance.

I am very interested in more efficient electrolysis of water to produce cheap hydrogen and am wondering what we might share to resolve the differences in experimental results?

Thank you for your work and effort put into making so much of this and other information available to people on the internet.

Sincerely, Penn Martin


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Please note: WE know are led to believe the above results presented on this page are a fruad the following email below seems to give the reason why


Electricity and Voltage

name Joao Carlos GAspar Carimo
status student
age 20s

Question - how does a considerable high voltage electricity at a very >high frequency
at about 5 amp continuous could affect electrolysis of water in order to splitti water in hydrogen and oxigen?
is it a considerable exothermic reaction? ive heard about a certain tesler experiment that could apparently produce more energy than the one used to generate it using vacum, high voltage and high frequency. if so, how come is it possible? on the other hand, iv also heard about an Enistein theory about a certain unknown energy that backs up this experiment..

It doesn't take a particularly high voltage to split water. There is a threshhold voltage necessary to split water at all. Above that voltage, the splitting will go faster. But voltage isn't all of the story. If you have a sufficient voltage, the current determines the amount of water that can be split. The amount of power (energy per time) that goes into the splitting of water is the product of the votage and current. Efficiency will be the amount of water split per amount of energy used; for maximum efficiency, you will want to use as low a voltage as you can, and a high current. If you use a higher voltage, the extra energy escapes as heat.

Using a high frequency alternating current will actually interfere with water-splitting. In alternating current, the potential constantly reverses itself, and there is a risk that you will also reverse the reaction at each electrode, and turn your newly-made hydrogen and oxygen back into water.

For efficient electrolysis, you want direct current. The splitting of water is not an exothermic reaction. It is considerably endothermic. Much heat is released when hydrogen and oxygen recombine to form water.

I have no knowledge of either the tesler experiment or the unknown Einstein theoretical energy.

Richard Barrans Jr., Ph.D. Chemical Separations Group Chemistry Division CHM/200 Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, IL 60439 richb@anl.gov

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